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| wideAMG |
Oct 12 2006, 06:45 PM
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![]() Silver Member Group: Moderators Posts: 1,573 Joined: 18-September 06 From: Toronto Member No.: 23 My Ride: 500SEC AMG Widebody, ML320, SLK230, 74 280C |
the AMG Hammer was based on the W124 300E. AMG added a modified M117 V8 engine taken from the 560SEL, bored & stroked it to 6.0L, fitted with AMG's 4-valve heads added a beefed up S-Class transmission and differential, and stuffed the whole lot into a 300E.
After the addition of firmer (and lower) shocks and springs and AMG's distinctive aerodynamics package, the result was a 360hp, 186 mph, $160,000 4-door. |
| wideAMG |
Oct 12 2006, 06:46 PM
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![]() Silver Member Group: Moderators Posts: 1,573 Joined: 18-September 06 From: Toronto Member No.: 23 My Ride: 500SEC AMG Widebody, ML320, SLK230, 74 280C |
1986: The Mercedes-Benz 300 E 5.6 AMG with eight-cylinder engine boasting 5.6-l displacement, four-valve technology, 265 kW/360 hp, 510 Nm torque and a top speed of 300 km/h. The first time that sports-car performance had been combined with the day-to-day qualities of a Mercedes. American fans christen the powerful AMG model ”The hammer”.
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| wideAMG |
Oct 12 2006, 06:51 PM
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![]() Silver Member Group: Moderators Posts: 1,573 Joined: 18-September 06 From: Toronto Member No.: 23 My Ride: 500SEC AMG Widebody, ML320, SLK230, 74 280C |
Mercedes-Benz 300E AMG Hammer 6.0
Price: $162,422 Top speed: 186 MPH Quarter mile: 13.5 @ 107 Acceleration 0-100: 11.5 Acceleration 0-60: 5.0 Braking 70-0: 165 ft. Lateral G's: 0.85 Curb weight: 3635 Wheelbase: 110.2 Track f/r: 58.9/58.6 Length: 186.6 Width: 68.6 Height: 54.1 Fuel capacity: 18.5 gallons Engine: DOHC V-8 Displacement: 6.0 liter/5953cc Compression ratio: 9.8:1 Bore x stroke: 100.0 x 94.8 SAE BHP: 375 @ 5750 LB/FT Torque: 407 @ 4400 Fuel system: Bosch CIS K-Jetronic Transmission: 4 speed auto 4th: 2.24:1 3rd: 3.23:1 2nd: 5.40:1 1st: 8.24:1 Final: 2.24:1 Springs: 2" lowered Shocks: Bilstein Brakes f/r: 11.2/10.2 ABS Wheels f/r: 17 x 8 ET28 Tires f/r: 215-45VR17/235-45VR17 |
| pokerface |
Oct 12 2006, 06:57 PM
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![]() Corporate Skank Group: Administrators Posts: 2,359 Joined: 18-September 06 From: Toronto Member No.: 10 My Ride: is not an American car. |
did the Monobloc II's originally come from the Hammer?
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| fasteddy |
Oct 13 2006, 12:08 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 42 Joined: 18-September 06 From: Vancouver Member No.: 13 |
Hey, a revised Hammer page.
The Hammer came with 17" original monobloc. |
| wideAMG |
Oct 13 2006, 06:44 PM
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![]() Silver Member Group: Moderators Posts: 1,573 Joined: 18-September 06 From: Toronto Member No.: 23 My Ride: 500SEC AMG Widebody, ML320, SLK230, 74 280C |
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| B4TM4N |
Oct 16 2006, 12:23 AM
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![]() Superhero / MBF Janitor Group: Moderators Posts: 3,732 Joined: 19-September 06 From: Toronto, Ontario Member No.: 70 My Ride: '06 R171, '08 W204 |
Was The Hammer anything like the Cosworth 190 E ??
This one looks really cool. I'm not a super fan of the red painted grill. I love the second shot of the Cosworth!! |
| fasteddy |
Oct 16 2006, 01:32 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 42 Joined: 18-September 06 From: Vancouver Member No.: 13 |
Some post got lost. Too bad.
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| yvrbenz |
Oct 16 2006, 08:26 AM
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Was The Hammer anything like the Cosworth 190 E ?? Not even close. The 190E 2.3-16, 2.5-16, EvoI and EvoIIs were factory built from a W201 chassis. The AMG Hammer is a tuned aftermarket car based on the W124 E-class saloon. The "Cosworth"s were all 4 cyl. 16v under 2.5L; the AMG Hammer was a 6.0L 32v V-8. The closest MB product to the Hammer in terms of performance and vintage would be the W124 500E. |
| GermanStar |
Oct 16 2006, 09:55 AM
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![]() Silver Member Group: Moderators Posts: 1,624 Joined: 18-September 06 From: Fountain Hills, AZ Member No.: 43 |
And I always thought this was the original Hammer...
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| fasteddy |
Oct 16 2006, 02:02 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 42 Joined: 18-September 06 From: Vancouver Member No.: 13 |
And I always thought this was the original Hammer... ![]() Where did you find the picture of Kirk's car? Here is more pictures: http://www.flyingtiger.ca/03racing/widebodycoupe.html |
| zudeck |
Oct 16 2006, 10:57 PM
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![]() Silver Member Group: Moderators Posts: 1,268 Joined: 19-September 06 From: Toronto/Barrie Member No.: 55 My Ride: Something You Dont Want To Mess With |
Where did you find the picture of Kirk's car? Here is more pictures: http://www.flyingtiger.ca/03racing/widebodycoupe.html I wonder how much it costs to do a swap and get a Hammer engine. |
| fasteddy |
Oct 16 2006, 11:39 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 42 Joined: 18-September 06 From: Vancouver Member No.: 13 |
The Hammer engine is No Longer Available. Your best bet is to retrofit a M119 from a 500 series and build it to Hammer spec.
That's what I did to my 400E. Attached image(s)
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| zudeck |
Oct 17 2006, 01:07 PM
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![]() Silver Member Group: Moderators Posts: 1,268 Joined: 19-September 06 From: Toronto/Barrie Member No.: 55 My Ride: Something You Dont Want To Mess With |
The Hammer engine is No Longer Available. Your best bet is to retrofit a M119 from a 500 series and build it to Hammer spec. That's what I did to my 400E. M119 eh ? But is that really worth doing to a 1988 300 E. I dont even have traction control ..lol !! The idea sounds very tempting but should I do this mod to such an old car or get like a 92 93 320 or 400 and then proceed. Also any stores where the m119 engine can be found and what kind of price should I be looking at ? |
| fasteddy |
Oct 17 2006, 10:38 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 42 Joined: 18-September 06 From: Vancouver Member No.: 13 |
Obviously any upgrade to an old car like a W124 does not worth it. It is the love and the passion. As you can see from earlier that the Hammer took over $160k US to build 15 years ago. You can imagine the inflation of that amount in todays value cost. A '95 E420 will be most ideal. You can expect to spent $60-100k to make it comparable. Depends on condition of base vehicle. Is that the budget you have in mind?
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| zudeck |
Oct 18 2006, 01:39 AM
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![]() Silver Member Group: Moderators Posts: 1,268 Joined: 19-September 06 From: Toronto/Barrie Member No.: 55 My Ride: Something You Dont Want To Mess With |
Obviously any upgrade to an old car like a W124 does not worth it. It is the love and the passion. As you can see from earlier that the Hammer took over $160k US to build 15 years ago. You can imagine the inflation of that amount in todays value cost. A '95 E420 will be most ideal. You can expect to spent $60-100k to make it comparable. Depends on condition of base vehicle. Is that the budget you have in mind? Hmm....the love is there....the passion is there....so is the car.....but that kind of money? Not here yet, but as soon as I graduate school yes. I am tired of seeing all these Honda's and Toyota's tuning their cars to such extremes and I just need to be out there smoking everyone. Nothing against Honda's and Toyota's they are fine cars. At the same time, how often do you see an old school merc pulling up at a red light and revving their engine and you getting scared. NEVER !! I want to change that. Yes agreed they are luxury cars and all that, but there needs to be more merc's on the road catching people's attention. Thats my two cents on the tuning section Maybe a 500E wont be a bad idea to start with and then move on to the Hammer !! |
| madmanmerc |
Jan 26 2007, 12:34 AM
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i have a 300e with all amg hammer spoilers, wing, exsaust, interior, heres a pic
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| zudeck |
Jan 26 2007, 08:58 PM
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![]() Silver Member Group: Moderators Posts: 1,268 Joined: 19-September 06 From: Toronto/Barrie Member No.: 55 My Ride: Something You Dont Want To Mess With |
I JUST BOUGHT AMG MONOBLOCKS !!! YAY.......
1 step closer to the dream !!! hahahaha |
| derSTAR |
Jan 26 2007, 09:54 PM
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Silver Member Group: Members Posts: 2,142 Joined: 18-September 06 Member No.: 4 My Ride: A Collection of Daimler Benz Product, mostly 1:38 |
flyingtiger, these swap does it require full axle move over? since a 300 rear end is no near a 500...
does that mean a swap like that usually require one 300 and 500 along side, so you move things piece of piece over? just curious... |
| Hot Rodder |
Jan 27 2007, 10:57 AM
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![]() Silver Member Group: Members Posts: 2,423 Joined: 20-September 06 Member No.: 88 |
In 2007 the old style AMG Hammer is similar to a Rat Rod....the buzz was almost 20 years ago on those cars.
The pity is that a Hemi Cuda is worth a ton more money than a souped up 400E, and when the 500E came out with the wide body, then to keep up they Hammered a 500E. You could hot rod a 400E for approx 30,000 US to turn it into a Hammer, old style stuff with heads, cams, headers, posi diffs and so on. Back in the time you could Hammer any V8 car, just like they AMG most models today. Hammered SL's were very popular, get a new 500SL spend another 30,000 on top, and then spend more money to get a radical look. Prior to that it was the wide body look on SEC's, with heads, cams, headers, usually the wider the look the bigger the number on the trunk, there were very wide SEC's with 1000SEC on the trunk. Back in the time the hot item was the traction control disconnect switch, after you charge an individual 30 large give him the tools to smoke the rubber, which was the switch. The cars literally drove like a muscle car, loud exhaust, peaky engine, still shifts on the transmission. All this goes back to the monochrome, spoilered AMG look and usually white or black was the preferred color, this look was still interesting up to about 10 years ago. The hot thing today would be a car finished in semi gloss white or black, you take an E55 do it up in semi gloss white, hot rod the engine, get exposure and PR from the car to sell accessories. That is what AMG was doing back in the time. Which is what all these German Tuners are still doing. M-B instead of making equipment reasonably priced for enthusiasts. Prefers to play the AMG everything game to get a strong price out of a car, which then depreciates like a submarine on an emergency dive. The Hammer for 2007 is a used hot rodded 2003 and up E55, monochrome semi gloss white ot black packing close to 600 HP under the hood, 19 inch rubber with flared rear quarters to take in 315, reworked exhaust, reworked front bumper to run a bigger rad for the intercooler. |
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